Please remember there are family members who may well read the words you are writing one day. Your right Dusty. He boasted of a vast media reach. Who is Kassanndra Cantrell? #805 yeah considering that all of MIchaels info is inaccurate. finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. 2014 On April 3, 2014, Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, after admitting to committing adultery and having an addiction to pornography. Sexual sin is appealing, addictive and readily available especially in this internet age and when the relationship at home is not following Gods plan and design (and yes, it even happens in homes of church leaders) it gives way to justification for sin to prevail. in fact, when the idea is brought up, Jesus denies he has a reign here on earth. Stop this! Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? I think the blogger has the best synopsis of what the biblical model is to do in this case. Barbara, You will have to do the homework. Check out any of the Reformers on the anti-Christ, Michael wrote: Dispensationalism was unheard of until the 1800s. The internetbeing able to attend service from your computer also became possible. My information says fired. An ongoing issue. Did I also read that Coy did not write his sermons and that this is common knowledge? I suspect you are an attendee at CCFL and you are angry, but dont shoot the messenger.. there was a guy who did so once, reluctantly. We believe in one God, the sovereign Creator and Sustainer of all things, infinitely perfect and eternally existing in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I simply will not limit orthodoxy to 20th century American evangelical viewsand a niche of American evangelicalism at that. Let the body of Christ refuse to sever a member. I am Michaels friend and have known him for several years now. Let the rescue mission begin. In fact, at least eight pastors, staffers, and volunteers in Calvary Chapel's network around the United States have been charged with abusing children since 2010. photos: Screencap via Youtube/Google Street View, The club has now terminated its relationship with Coy, toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows. "People were really, really hurt," says Colleen Healy, a Broward resident who began following Coy in 1995. Actually that is not in the Bible a humorous mistake for a literalist. I will pray that your eyes open and that you will not fall into the same trap as we all did before. See Against Heresies, Book V. He was refuting arch heretics Marcion and Valentinus who taught amillennialism. Should we handle this any differently? Whether it be true or not we will always love Pastor Bob and Diane. 22 IF THOSE DAYS HAD NOT BEEN CUT SHORT, NO ONE WOULD SURVIVE, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. Amillennialism is for those that refuse to take the Bible literally, and shuck it off as if it just originated in the last 150 years (which is a lie, since all the first believers were against this ghastly false doctrine). Mega-churches always have such a high profile for scandal. Phoenix Preacher 2023. At the same time I will stand with every CC pastor who is seeking to do church the right way. You must have wrote it after I closed the thread. Oh now its inappropriate!!! thoughts? None are anointed in this age, none are special, none are transformed in a practical sense. My heart is with his family and that congregation. "The media ministry of the Active Word that distributes his Bible teachings through radio, television and digital media has also been suspended. Who is his congregation? to attract a crowd, something is wrong. The devil is astute as he infiltrates the church from the very beginning, first through Catholicism and then through Calvinism! Be careful, any of us could be next thats true. Recognizing we serve a God of second chances and that our hope is in Him, the statement concludes, the leadership, staff and members of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale have joined together in prayer for Pastor Bob and his family during this time of healing.. The kid did great for ten years until he had his own moral failing 5 years ago. Please tell me how could he take communion while screwing someone else the last year..Id like to know when he lost his values, his morals, his honesty..his life is a lie. Now either dialogue with respect or go back to selling bridges to imaginary Calvinists. You have to turn blind eyes to the very world around you, and how ugly it is. #325 Is that Biblical? I still recall your attitudes when Jimmy Kempner got exposed for solicitation of a woman for sexa woman who turned out to be undercover officer for the Tustin Police. Mother and daughter are reeling from shock..asking themselves why they did not recognize the absence of authentic Christian character in the fallen mega-pastor. Coys not aloneI know of quite a few CC pastors who are just un-caught for similar sins and other equally bad or worse stuff. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. Did he really? Pastor John has always publicly spoken about his sins of adultery, Im not aware of Fidels but I am aware of others, regardless this isnt about the leaders more so than the entire body. Register today for the I Am His conference at. At that time the services were also being displayed live. His popularity soared. Where is this supposed 1,000 yr earthly reign. This place has a gifting for helping saints deal with things like you are going thru. A day with DC having make-up applied by a makeup artist. For weeks we have had to listen to bozos saying that we are hypocrites for saying certain unmentionable behavior is wrong while not dealing with this type. At times like this we as Christians need to be more like Jesus and have lots of compassion towards a man who at least for me taught me how to have a true relationship with God and no one can take that away from Bob. Look in Daniel 1 v 20. Anything at all? Boyd Coddington (August 28, 1944 February 27, 2008)[1] was an American hot rod designer, the owner of the Boyd Coddington Hot Rod Shop, and star of American Hot Rod on TLC. he also had an administrative staff that helped him with a thorough and expository message, precept by precept. The hearts that through him were opened to accept Jesus as their saviors will always be in Gods heart. Bob asked me to remove that message, but, I completely agree. . So my position is one of total sympathy for Diane and the kids.and I find myself frankly in the conflicted position due to personal experience of being totally pissed at Bob for his selfish actions, and at the same time praying for his relationship to be someday restored with first our Lord, and Diane, and his tragically innocent children. Let the people of God rally to those who are hurting and those who have been sinned against. I think it is worth reading. Im in good standing with my church and those Im accountable to. So although Bob did at one point attempt to put rots in Pompano God had other plans, much like Noah getting swallowed by the great fish after being thrown off a ship and subsequently deposited in the land where God intended him to go. So crazy that I became addicted to cocaine.". What are my options if the operation goes wrong? Im a wretched sinful person. BTW, Flynn, that might prove 3 1/2 years of tribulation, not 7. who have been chosen ACCORDING TO THE FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD THE FATHER, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. I do wish he had faced the congregation, it would be helpful in the cleansing and restoration process, besides Ive seen him hold people accountable publicly and so should he but thats water under the bridge. I am obviously perfectly aware of what I quoted and what you quoted as the posts show. Thank you for posting such a powerful and healing message. Thanks for the attribution Michael, thats how it went down. As planned, Jake was going to donate a kidney to her. Let us gather in prayer for the church, the family as well as for Bob that restoration, deliverance be thy restored. Then all were invited up to search their hearts. Again, welcome. It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance. This website is, usually, dominated by people that hold to one very narrow view of eschatology. We are all susceptible to temptation and sin until the day we are redeemed and changed incorruptible. (Flores was eventually convicted of sex with the minor.). In 1968, he moved to California building hot rods by day and working as a machinist at Disneyland during the night. Coy soon upgraded again, by moving to a warehouse in Pompano Beach, where thousands came every week to watch him preach. Also, by that time there were a few millionaires who attended. Is God through with the nation of Israel? No way around the fallout. I suspect the local media in Florida will be all over this as things unfold. 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. No one will recognize him on the beaches of South France or strolling through Florence. On April 3, 2014, Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, after admitting to committing adultery and having an addiction to pornography. Bob is an example of what God can do with a man open to His correction. Just saying maybe. This time around you guys got it right. There is little doubt that the makers intended for us to be concerned. When did I ever mention Bob Coy? Look Jesus does speak of his return very clearly in Matt 25, the 2nd half about the sheep and the goats 1.) But some thought it was financial issues. I stand corrected. I did not interpret Acts 2 I just posted it. Diane was the first pulled out of the car. Michael, mainstream christian media is PR only. Get over yourself. Changes things greatly. God sees everything. Early life, education and early career. Mary! Really? With the latest revelations on child molestation, Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale posted on Tuesday the following statementin response to the allegations: "Our church was saddened to hear of the allegations made against Bob Coy years after his resignation and departure as senior pastor. As his star rose and his congregation grew into the tens of thousands, the Sun Sentinel solicited weekly faith columns written by Coy. Well, thats simply not true either and not quantifiable. I guess you deemed references to lying in the Bible as Calvinist, so they dont apply to you. Not only has she been publicly shamed, in front of her friends, family and all whom she held dear, but she has been shamed by a husband who found her lacking and inadequate. His approval of Jakes procedure was crucial. 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the land; and he shall smite the land with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. Pastor Bob had suddenly resigned, the assistant pastor told the stunned crowd. Michael, Heres a great picture that you will appreciate, courtesy of Reddit http://ppcdn.500px.org/46961604/93440f80cd492bca3ff2ae5626d488dfc26c4bb4/2048.jpg. {P} , , , - , , , . Red herring. A CCFL employee posted it on my blog and I started asking questions all over the place and then published the question. Thank you. Will they be allowed? Lastly, if the assumption of some is correct (that Coy will re-surface soon..to be reinstated), would any mature believer out there choose to sit under the teaching of a re-cycled pastor in favor of a shepherd who will lead Gods flock with integrity of heart? Give me a break. Welcome to those who found this blog due to Bob Coys fall, my heart and prayers go out to you as you navigate this difficult time. I knowI can tell when youre chewing me out. Neither of them has shown their face since all this broke. No mans gifts and abilities are so necessary to Gods work that he (God) will violate his own word and wink at that mans seemingly covered and hidden sin. He can't be put in a position of power ever again," Newnham stressed. Too many people look at their pastor or sr. pastor, vs.the congregation being pointed to the Lord. When Smith burnt people down like this they never came back. What about them? When you find out I spoke the truth are you going to apologize and repent in the community you accused me in? Ill say the amen. Again, shout it to the masses when its other peoples sins like gay marriage etcor make assistant pastors go before the church and confess (Bob Grenier did that stuff)but grace and mercy and lets give the family their privacy etc when its the Senior Pastors turn to face the music. And much of that strength came from the wondrous friends and counselors he put in my path such as Michael, your support and the support of so many on PP. The interpretation is right there in the text he is telling the listeners that they are witnessing that very event.. You can keep attacking Luther it doesnt phase me one bit. . Coy, who has also been divorced from his wife, is reportedly looking into the prospect of starting a new church again despite the controversy. It is my hope and prayer that you find healing and peace. He toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows, hung around with Billy Graham, and published books and CDs. He resigned because he had no choice. Brian is extensively involved in missions and church planting around the world. According to numerous sources and documents we have obtained, Coy has already been dismissed by his board. Very sad. You are embarrassing. Someday, all our sins will be revealed, you may be surprised who has hidden this type of sin, how prevalent it is, and how many are struggling to not be exposed for fear of being treated like we are treating Bob Coy. But on February 22 of that year, the case went to Judge Tim Bailey, a member of a powerful conservative family; his father, Patrick, founded the Pompano Beach Republican Club, and both father and son had chaired Broward's Judicial Nominating Commission. This is what is so frustrating to me. Refuse to let that man and his family go. This is the book advertised by EricL on the side bar. If you never lived together with others then you have never lead Jesus Style and problems will eventually surface when you fail to lead in this way. This megachurch has about 16,830 weekly visitors. Youre just twisting Acts 2. After doing research, we found that each of these churches are controlled at the top by people who have connections to the ecumenical/interfaith movement and are stealthily drawing the churches into the one world religion of the Antichrist.. Was awake a lot last night both praying and reliving my own similar, tho much smaller scale experience. It doesnt say or infer anything you are saying. The point is that sin is a type of adultery against God, if we are the bride of Christ, lying, lust cheating or anything that puts something in front of Christ is an adultery because it violates that covenant. one more bad guy to add to the never ending. I cant tell you how many employees would be afraid to speak up about ANYTHING going on in both the church and the school because they were afraid to lose their job or position! I will be giving more information as it is vetted. "If you're broken, Jesus will be gentle with you in your anger and disillusionment," Sauder said. The problem is that youre not with Christ Jesus, who looked at Peter with compassion, but youre with a different being, an angelic being who accuses the brethren day and night! [12], Coddington was hospitalized on December 31, 2007. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. (Update: The club has now terminated its relationship with Coy and says it had no inkling of the allegations against him.) Beating a brother up as you mention Im sure is not what Jesus meant by loving your enemy and turning the other cheek! The reference is not to Rev 5 But to Isaiah 11, which speaks of the millennium. Its their soft term for adultery. Why does the emphasis these days seem to be on altering The Message in a manner which appeals to the culture?. Documents show that Coral Springs cops sat on the accusations for months before dropping the inquiry without even interviewing Coy. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Is 11:68. Most of us did that in the earliest days of the blog. Is it true that women paid money to deny the commandment inI Timothy about women placing a priority on the cultivation of inward character over outward adornment by having high price spa and hair days? Maybe I dont have the steps in order but you get my drift. Now we have correctly identified each other. Andrew, Michale requested that theological debates cease immediately, to let people here grieve if they so choose. Diane Downs gave birth to four children. Youve mentioned Ashley and Connie so I get the impression you have respect for them, talk with them I know them both, not well but they are both solid to say the least. This is exactly why we are to rely on God and not in man. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. no im not angry. This blog had nothing to report except for what some very connected church leaders gave the writer to report. G, Thank you for your intercession last nightI forgot to turn it off this thread before I went to bed. Both guilty, but with massively different responsibilities before God. For her perfecting, she awaits the return of her Lord. It is plain as day but these are the same folks who bring us blood moons, 1,000 yr earthly Jesus reigns raptures etc.. , Macarthur being grossly misrepresented? I am. Statistics. Im learning all about a day in the life of MLD. I may have forgotten the exact amount but it was somewhere between 3,500.00 and 5,000.00. Im not married. Thanks for enriching us. In 1989, CadZZilla, a customized 1949 Cadillac, was commissioned by ZZ Top's Billy Gibbons, conceived by Jack Chisenhall, and designed by Chisenhall and Larry Erickson. Little sister Ive had my struggles at CC and other churches, Ive walked out of sermons and understand the feeling of not relating to Pastors. I pray Coy takes the time needed before he returns to the ministry. Youre evading the question, who are your accountability partners, what is the name of your congregation? Everything is documented from Macarthurs own words. or are you just repeating here say? When it comes to judging their own sinprivate meeting and dont judge!. Barbara, well done. Governance Model does not dictate whether a pastor is more or less a sinnerit recognizes the fact the pastor is a sinner and provides checks and balances against too much pastor-centric power that is a corrupting force. In light of that, the apparent glee/self righteousness voiced by some above/previously sickens me. He is being destroyed in the media and the usual covering has not been applied by CCCM. They didnt have to. So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. She has worked with and directed women's ministries, including teaching and writing curriculum for ladies Bible studies in Ft. Lauderdale, FL where she lived for 25 years; as well as speaking . He circled Bakkers property like a vulture and tried to save it or use it to his advantage. Coddington was charged with a misdemeanor and pleaded guilty on April 7, 2005. I know of a young 20 something recent Bible college grad (female) who wrote sermons for him. {} 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious. Hes a great teaching no matter what. That same year, the church found itself in a bizarre scandal centered on a lucrative, 400-station radio network and its head, Idaho-based Pastor Mike Kestler. 20:3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, What kind of a pit will hold a non bodied being like Satan. Nobody handed him the keys, he built this church. lol. Time for restoration. Bob, in my opinion, respects people that challenge him because hes a competitive type of guy but bring your A game. If they are true, there is a greater problem than Bob Coys moral failure. You just have to be careful when looking for a church some of these churches teach that Calvinism garbage, like God had chosen some to go to hell and theres no such thing as free will for the nonbeliever, and the limited atonement nonsense that Jesus only died for the elect and not for the whole world, others teach replacement theology that God is through with the nation of Israel and we the church have replaced them and there are no more promises for Israel, but instead they apply to the church. I have heard the asst Pastors dont make a lot of $-maybe that will all change now. Im still waiting for Super Troopers 2 over here, but will have to check out Goonies 2 as well . Bob knew all the more well what he was doing, there wasnt some demon forcing him into this action. You dont have any morals.your life is a lie. Michael, what is your intention with this? I thought so. Ive had so much calamity the last few years that a standard curse would feel like a vacation. You have defended your right to report the story, which I cannot dispute, and have vigorously expressed that those who disagree are killing the messenger or throwing you under the busbut my point was not to indeed do such, but to state that, due to the lives that are affected by this story (his family), and yes, by his sin, which I do not excuse in any way, that it may not have been in good humanity or taste to have reported the story before the church did on April 6. Read under the heading Modern Times and get a partial list of who holds this position. Personally I saw through thi scumbag years ago ..he used his popularity to con people and he was smart enough to do itHe never took the word seriously to his heart. I believe with God all things are possible. This is bad for the pastor, bad for the general congregation. My anger and frustration with Bob today is finally slipping toward thoughts about those poor souls who have to listen to 3 services of unrelated sermons in order to make it to an afternoon meeting where sadness and disappointment will rule the day. Therefore the discussion is pointless. Where did you ever get the idea that the millennium was to be disneyland?? The blog host has spent the week publishing positive, restorative articles after the news broke. So, when they said, clean out your desk, he did.. If Bob Coy is truly repentant we go with restoration, recovering a brother, and we take measures that heal. Comments are back on at the CC Abuse blog. In a congregation this size of course there are others who have been / are guilty of the same transgressions and there will be others in the future. This is all speculation and I dont think MacArthur should do this kind of thing. we were gone by then. People would drive by our home, honk their horns and scream terrible things at us. There has not been joy expressed here for the scandal by the vast majority of people including the host. "If you're foolish enough to go through with this story it would hurt a lot of people," he added, refusing to provide more details about the scandal. Did God appoint you to broadcast this? Sordid details. Miss Daisy, i assume youre a woman, if youre not, then you have bigger problems, but if youre a woman of course you havent had problems with porn, porn is primarily a mans vice. Thak you for sparing me hahaha, I already had my sleep for the night, and for not trying to make me a Calvin disciple, I see how they turn out hahaha! The earthly issue? Was God behind it? You have to take literal and spiritualize it all. It took our family years to recover from his actions, and I guess this all just brings it back. Lets see what you have. People were asked to make pledges. I am curious about when men have this happen to them (especially if theyre caught as opposed to confessing) if there are other issues that need to be looked at? You are stalling. I hope they reconsider that vision in light of his failure. My beef with Mac is that his version of the gospel is gospel by correct doctrine and holy living which I dont think is correct. None of us can understand how that kind of money can insulate us from anything we dont want to deal with. Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vince's wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. We took our kids out of the pool at 4 PM to make a 6 PM service. I never missed a weekday or weekend service. Michael, my cell phone is if You have anything youd like to say to me. If anything, this week, this place, has attempted to bring some good, some lessons, some encouragement, and some healing to those caught in that wreckage, and I include myself in that group. So many people will be hurt by this. "We need answers.". They had plenty of time to tell their people and they already had prepared for their family meeting. I think quoting one of the ten commandments isnt politically correct. Carry on. Together with John Buttera,[3] Boyd pioneered this "billet" machined look and applied it not only to wheels, but broadly throughout the car.[4]. Much of that lashing out has been accusatory against the facts of the article, calling them lies and slander, with plenty of personal insults to the author. By the same token, I like the debate but blame others . It never is. Pastor Bob has said time & time again that you dont go to church for him you go to church for a connection to god. Am I still being censured by MN? You have some serious issues. Hugh, Ill mark the calendar. Afterwards BC was the poster boy for raising money and he spoke for Crown Financial on how to get the church to give. Money creates a disconnect. Mr. Newnham.what is your source on this? Someone on the other blog I referenced wrote about the last few messages that BC preached. If they see him relinquish controlsubmit to leadership he disagrees with, defers his influence to other more healthy leaders etc etc. "We are not led by a board of elders.". He can be restored as a brother but I wouldnt give him the keys to another church. Grace Bible Church Plantation. When my wife and I first started attending CCFL in 93 he preached with humility and it was refreshing. Coy has had a national ministry, not just one to the local church and his fall is a matter of national news. Michael, you know that this thread is going to deteriorate. You never know what youd do if you were in his position.thats like a bum saying hed never do what a rich man would do.
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