The 29-year-old from Stockport vanished on 14 August near a beauty spot in Panama. Kris walks down the ravine and bends over to examine orange graffiti Search shoe with foot in it found. While I was reading over the story again, I decided to review their photos one more time. 4. & is that some sort of an entrance to a cave or another makeshift structure shes crouching to take a look inside- or is a part of the trail in that spot purposefully made lower & narrower in order to pass through? How Many Backpackers Go Missing In Australia Every Year It seems too strange to be an accident. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. He has collected much that is out there but still the majority is second hand and we have no information as to the voracity. On March 14, 2014, students LisanneFroon and Kris Kremers traveled from the Netherlands to Panama, where they intended toassistlocal communities, volunteerwith children, learnSpanish, and relax a bit. JW, I agree with you totally, thanks for your intelligent remarks! But they are hurt and they are lost. Impact of the Pandemic on Tourism - IMF F&D Her stance is weird there is nothing of note she could be looking at and it is difficult to tell what her right arm is doing. Its a bit strange that the dog is not in any picture. This is an interesting analysis, of this photos and the case in general. Theyd probably just bury the camera in a deep hole or toss it in the river or ocean. Most novices wouldnt know how to properly handle something like this, so it was probably someone experienced with computers. The bag contained her camera as well as two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, Froons passport, a water bottle, two bras, and both womens phones. Or whoever deleted the photos may have overlooked to delete this one as they could have done it in a hurry as well. The critical time is between the last foto and the first SOS call. Have you looked closely at what Chris has labelled the insignia. Im always reviewing their case and looking for answers. Notice how Juan has actively injected false information into the public investigation, including a picture of 4 people standing in a pond with heavily photo edited faces (one of them has their head moved off of the neck in a very obvious edit). & very very eerie all in all- I think youre absolutely right on its significance. What if she was trying to get fire with the mirror and the paper? I cant imagine the rednecks in Alto Romero or the lads from Calderas having the wit to bother with it. Hi Rune (and Stian), great points. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. This girl was tortured before they killed her. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. How certain are we that they started at the trail head as we are told? And the police know who it is, but will not say anything. Hi Em, thank you. To this day, the disappearance and tragic deaths of Kris and Lisanne remains a harrowing mystery. We usually permit our commenters to publish links to external material, and you are welcome to do the same. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. This tribe was not located near the area where Kris and Lisanne disappeared, and therefore, in no way can be connected to the disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your interest in the case. Hard noncontroversial evidence is very limited and what there is is open to interpretation. I agree. Others suggested neitherFroonnor Kremerstook those photos; they believesomeone abducted the women. And the black mark on her face. From the story of Holger, it seems unlikely to imagine that the medical examiner overlooked the very serious condition of the cyclists remains. A man and a woman. The gangs in Panama are much smaller, usually consisting of between 5 and 30 people. You mention the research team. Another thing that crossed my mind is what if the backpack & items had been kept as like a trophy of the killings, & a local knew thats what it was aware of the incident & grabbed it & left it somewhere to be found to try & help shed light on the case the best way they could. Meanwhile, on April 2, 2014, the pairmissed their appointment with their hired tour guide. I speculate about potential reasons. Basically, theres a lot of government corruption and poverty as a result. . Despite search teams, which included dogs and. The ambulatory friend began to assess how she might reach her friend, but underestimated the difficulty involved, thereby becoming less able to extricate herself from the jungle. I really feel that this place is the key to what happened to the girls. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. That photo was wiped clean from the SD card, which is a strong clue that someone deleted it after the other photos were taken. again, this has been superimposed on the scene and again her feet are obscured because she is not wearing boots. if both then was the other found in their room? Here is what bothers me about this event. Why are you not sharing their photo number, why are you stating generalities, let me help you, there is a link with all the photos https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. People in developed countries often have a more ideal view of what a pet represents. Only three days later the three assailants were given their sentences: Hctor Abrego - 15 years in prison and must pay his sentence in jail in Santiago. The search efforts moved into the forests where the young women traversed, using on-foot search teams and dog units. A Panamanian search and rescue team helped recover the bodies after more than 690 hours of searching, authorities said. There is very convincing evidence gathered by Juan Perea over the years on this case. Two days pass. Her right hand is clearly raised in front of her shading her face from the sunlight. The abductor is a deeply religious man, in his own demented way, and he sees this as a sign from God. Some people believe the two girls got lost lost, some people believe the third-party theory and some people have mixed theories. It would also show that the photos had been truly messed about with, as this one is supposed to come before the photos of her crossing the stream. The picture where she is crossing the stream and looking back, her smile looks forced. A man and a woman. However being one of the last photos taken this location would be incredibly important to have investigated back in 2014 (or even still). Maybe the girls were not so clever at tech but they did not leave voice or video memos to document their predicament not goodbye messages for family. The photos showed the girls belongings spread out on rocks, along with plastic bags and candy wrappers, mounds of dirt, and a mirror. Think. Kris en esta foto, tiene sus manos atrs, que podran estar atadas o esposadas . In all of the photos, there is zero evidence to suggest that the dog was truly with the girls on their hike into the forest. However, according to the Daily Beast: We now know that more than two dozen other victims also were reported in the same region of Panama, including a young woman from the United States found murdered earlier this year. From 2017 . This article seems to have a crop from high resolution version of the above photo. Apart from the fact if she was photoshopped in this picture, i.m.o. When neither Froonnor Kremers turned up, the community decided to wait until the next day to contact authorities. The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. I think the left arm is visible behind her hanging down. Rainfall probably washed the bag into the water. I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. I too believe this is most likely what happened. The red is the sunlight shining through the dead curled leaves. The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. I noticed that youve submitted two more links in another newer comment. Thanks for the analysis though, I keep looking for new stuff, this case really gets to meI can see why people think this was a criminal act -I see that with some aspects of the case, however, I do think that it was the result of injury and or getting lost -I cant see a criminal 1) letting them keep their phones and camera and 2) letting the camera and phones being discovered. An explosion in tourism has saved Iceland's economy. Jump forward to Boquette now and you will see a photo of the girls in the street, and behind them is a shirtless fat white man. Who did the manipulation of course is a mystery but it points to being a corroboration of the police narrative that they got lost. I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost. Also, where did learn that her brother mistakenly put the hair photo online? We simply dont have enough information at this time. In other pictures of her crossing water she is clearly dirty with her hair up. Id love to know if these pics exsist. I think most of what people are seeing -other than the obvious, of course- is pareidolia. Why did they not do that? The limited number of attempts especially on the first day is very strange. I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. Apr 4, 2022 The number of international visitor arrivals in Panama surpassed the one million in 2021, after having plummeted to less than 700 thousand as a result of COVID-19 impact on tourism. This is the reason that police, journalists and military personnel often disappear and governments struggle to combat crime, not to mention corruption within law enforcement itself. one girl got hurt, i think in the fall the camera got wet and bumped. I think we are all seeing things that arent there. It looks as if there is a guy standing off the edge in the tunnel. Are any of you familiar with the missing 411 phenomena? OmgIm staring at this pic. I wish there were more answers to what happened. If you watch the four part video of the entire trail beyond the Mirador you will see exactly where this photo was taken, and there is not a cave or ledge or ravine anywhere near her. 3. Gary, great work on noticing things in such detail. I think this was a setup for the 2 girls from the beginning. Shadow play back and forth, I find it more than weird that you can clearly see the number 5. The attacker could have taken the photos to confuse the authorities and the public. This photo has been edited. THANK GOD SOMEONE IS SEEING WHAT I SEE. The commenters here are speculating wildly about this particular picture. This figure has increased rapidly since the millionth tourist . This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. Does anyone know what the orange string is on the left of the photo? When the girls were vacationing in South Panama it shows a photo of them in the ocean, and behind them in the ocean is a fat white man seemingly staring at them. For all that we know, it could be someone who works for the police who did this. Their families believed the women were still in the unrecovered plane wreckage, and as the search stretched on for days and then weeks, they pleaded with the U.S. government for help they said never came. They may not have even know what they were doing, taking pictures, if they werent familiar with technology, and tossed the phone again at some point for the girls to grab to attempt the emergency calls and taken it back at some point after. She is not tied up, there is no rope around her waist and there are no hidden or blurry people in the photo. And one of the images chillingly showed the back of Kris' head with what some sleuthes believe is blood leaking from her temple. Theymade numerous emergency calls afew hours into their hike; logs show they managed to connect only oncedue to poor reception in the forest. Maybe they stumbled on a hidden stash of drugs or something wierd and were taking a photo of the location in order to report it to the police, but got caught before they could. Also we are in the realms of Hollywood if we need such a calm and calculating mind at work other than those of the girls to abduct and or kill them and then orchestrate a smokescreen. Once you see it, you cannot unsee see it. And theyre gaining steam in recent years. So that is what she discovered here. Where is the Ping for that time? Also and I am assuming the phones where in their possession the phones actually did acquire a signal some times but clearly they were not being used so they did not know. The sign actually looks like a door with light shining thru.thats crazy. The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. Is the time that photo was taken known? History is not a science but it can include some science. The case needs solid evidence and/or solid witnesses coming forward. However, any link that requires any form of downloads, account creation or spammy activity, to view linked content, will not be permitted. Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. The blood on her leg is, again, a shadow. 3. There was one person that said that the dog left with them when they set out on their hike. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. Think about it. All very different from the happy silly girlie pictures at the beginning. Do they deal in weapons, drugs, porn? Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. Both of these photos were photoshopped! Do mobile phones store the number entered? I am thinking while I am writing so please be patient with me. Kris is hunched over beside a sacrificial alter with hands tied behind her. Yes theres a man to her left crouched down wearing beige/ beige/ brown. Bizarre Stories About Tourists Who Went Missing Far From Home A tragedy and a mystery but in its core, this is only a horrible accident. incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. She decided to attempt to reach her friend, or help via phone. But someone may not like it, so I hope that you will be very carefull! Stories which hes found in archives going back as early as 1500s until modern day all Facts and all true. They didnt take anything with them for more than 1 or 2 hours max journey. In fact, to bring a dog for a walk is less common in general, because most dogs are permitted to go outside anytime they want. He walked the trail with Ks parents, a sweet friendly lovely dog companion with big wise blue eyes, he is prominent in the video made by Ks parents as they walked the trail. If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist. 9.3 million tourists visited Australia in 2019 (year ending June 2019). With all the misinformation thrown out there and poor follow up work (likely to protect tourism), any ones guess is possible. Plus, corruption in Panamas government is rampant. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. Looks like shes holding her hand up to shield her eyes. They provide a live accounting of missing-persons cases. One or more abductor did know the phone PIN but not all people involved knew. I believe that this case WILL be solved. Hi Jim, I appreciate your comments but please lay off the language of calling people fools. If you follow down from the two red objects, there appears to be something that looks almost like blocks or siding shingles. Hi Chris, i uploaded the photo to show what i see. to Kris left is a huge dark area that has been poorly obscured with pixellation. She does look slightly uneasy but I just think it was a photo she wasnt expecting. The Velleman family had been in touch with several Wisconsin and Illinois representatives as they sought assistance from the U.S. government in the search and recovery effort. They knew to be on guard and be careful. However, image 510 was taken on April 8, in the darkness of the jungle. Their families went to the police to. I dont think there was actual foul play. This is an excellent analysis. Again NO SIGNAL! Ive removed their comment and blocked them from reposting. The back of the shirt was soiled (you interpret). I would certainly buy it if it had been printed in English. You highlight the importance of fastidiousness in the articles that I reference. Can you provide more information about photos of the girls being in bad shape? Europe is the world . Highly probable. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). But in the last year, several mass graves have been unearthed, revealing to the world a dark practice of human sacrifice which is thriving in the jungles of Panama. Hence the bras and everything safely stacked in the backpack together both girls sunglasses and both girls phones (otherwise each girl would be carrying her own phone). Someone with darkish skin. Bright sunlight is coming in from the left side of the photo, so Kris holds her flattened right hand up to her face to shield her eyes, similar to a salute. It must have been flowing in the river the police said. Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? And why? Brought to trial and prosecuted successfully: highly unlikely, less than 1%. But because of their theatrics and ignoring the evidence, the story and curiosity will continue to keep this case alive. US Is Europe's No. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. Matts article about the daytime photos (link), https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg, https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html, https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/141020/of-piece-medical-studies-examiner, https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and.html, Kris Kremers Case: The People Involved (Reference Guide), New Case Data: Night Photo EXIF Temperatures, Video Footage: El Pianista Complete Trail Hike, Canadas Freedom Convoy Raises Millions On GiveSendGo, Panama Expedition 2021 Complete Overview, Disappearance Stories A Word Of Caution, Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon (Case Articles), 18 Critical Tips for Traveling Central America. For what reason? In fact the last 4 (pre-nightime) photos are at odds with the others. For the next four days they travel. A desperate search for the students was launched, with rescue workers combing through the jungle and nearby villages. That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. A path looks different anyway when you walk back the other way so they would not be aware they were not heading the right way and carried on. Yes indeed!I hadnt noticed that before!is it a carved rock of sorts?. Celebrity. I dont see any confirmation from law enforcement either as to whether or not the white bones were tested for bleaching. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. She is NOT looking at the ground, but at the camera, with her face up. I wonder? Also, no organ stealing, no cartels, no people traffickers, nothing to do with tribes, cults, sects, etc. Over four days, 77 separate attempts had been made to call the cops - using the emergency numbers in both the Netherlands and in Panama. If Kris were injured and they couldnt use the phone, then why didnt Lisanne go get help? And they wont leave until they know all hope is lost. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. In Latin America, gangs, cartels and human traffickers work very effectively in unison to carry out organized crime. That is not a cave or a ravine behind her. Oy vey I didnt catch this before, but seeing it now it sort of made my eyes water a bit. Dutch investigators attempted to recover the file but didnt manage to retrieve any data, which suggests that the camera was plugged into a computer and the file was deleted rather than deleted from the camera. So sad what happened to them today is the first Ive heard of the story and its wildly upsetting. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. Their bodies were located after more than 690 hours of searching. These other comments are just people seeing what they want to see, to make things more mysterious. Im considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. More info here. After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Did they become lostand fall down a cliff? Has anyone gone back to the spot where the photo was taken? Check out David Paulidess accounts of people who go missing every day in state parks. Feel free to comment again or send me an email. They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. Perplexing to say the least. I think investigation isnt the correct word. . Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. December 17, 2022. They were friends from college, and were roommates then, so Lisanne had to have known Kris password as her best friend. This story struck my heart. Then there are no images until April 8, when 90 unsettling nighttime pictures were taken with flash in the middle of the jungle with timestamps between 1:00 and 4:00 AM. Froon and Kremers were both in their early 20s; they traveled to Panama to work with children. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. Haha. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. Why are both her hands behind her back? What kind of twisted f*ck stick makes this kind of comment? Thats just shadow that the camera didnt illuminate. The backpack and contents were covered with fingerprints, yet they were never analyzed. Thanks for your consideration with this comment. https://netherlandsnewslive.com/kris-and-lisanne-went-hiking-in-panama-but-never-left-the-jungle/151903/. But even when a phone is locked after thee attempts the screen says emergency calls only. Do u know if this particular spot was apart of the trail they went on? The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. In Latin America, it is as common as drinking coffee. I dont appreciate the internet trolls who dump havoc on peoples insights. Im just pointing out some peculiar things worth noting. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. El despus, es pnico y preocupacin. From my own gutt feeling I see only a very preventable accident. I have no doubt that the camera was tampered with. Someone mentioned a Jaguar? What confuses this is that after Kriss phone dies then on the 5th during the afternoon SOS attempt a wrong pin is input on Lisannes phone and indeed continues to be input until the end. . Perhaps the killer of Catherine Johanet knows more, Hi, u might want to watch this vid it has theories dat i think might giv more insights to this case, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCaD8kRTwsI. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. I also see the handing ornament, whatever that is called and definitely a roof structure with leaves and branches above her. The oddest thing about this photo is the look on her face which looks very distorted. This makes no sense. These nameless trails arent monitored or maintained by park rangers. One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. In reality, I dont think someone would go to this extent. Only a handful of the pictures retrieved from the memory card showed clear images, with most showing near-complete darkness. Years later, some people still believe someone killed the pair. Thorough job, very insightful and so well done Please visit Panama and further investigate. And look at it from this point of view. Rest fell off of the one hour bridge in Bastrop brains and on the rocks below some photos show her dead body laying down there. Someone in the comments put the link to your website thats how I found you! There was enough evidence in this investigation to solve the case and possibly find Kris and Lisanne while they were alive. ITS SHAPED LIKE A BRA. Right hand is on her hip/slightly behind back, the left is hanging down on her side or in her pocket I cant tell. Im always looking for answers. However, I cannot say for certain because I do not know why the owner would fabricate this part of the story. Even rainwater gets heavy enough to destroy electronics inside of a backpack yet that didnt happen. Given thetimeline, authorities assumedat least one of the womenwas alive at thetime, five days into the search. Obviously she did the first several times, but as the battery got lower, she likely got more conscious of the idea of conserving it. Wearing minimal clothing, no knife of compass which were left in their room. Things Tourists Should Never Do in Panama, Ever - Culture Trip This is so surreal. From the summit, they decided to go in a bit deeper, or just took the wrong exit path by mistake. The calls bother me though. I find it really creepy, but maybe Im looking at it wrong due to shadows and light. Is there a head count of how many people have perished using the hiking trail in, say the last 10 years? Where did u see that picture ? Shes ducking down slightly and trying to shield her eyes from the sun with her right arm. There is no traces of them anywhere. In all, the State Department says that in 2013 and 2014, a . The jungle was searched for another ten days with the help of the cops from the Netherlands - but there was no sign of the girls. Adrien McNaughton Was Surrounded by Family, He Left Behind Books He Wrote in Secret Code, The Door Was Open, and Baby Lisa Was Gone. 1. Several people have gone missing in national parks across the country Of course, nobody knows exactly why things happened. In which photos? If you dont know the story, I recommend you visit the link at the bottom of this page. Thanks for pointing this out. Cave photo: Debbie, I agree. she does see something disgusting. Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004.
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